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		By: Phantasmix		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I covered ALGN a couple of hours ago, but still holding VAL. I don&#039;t have much VAL, so I can wait. Would like to see it down to $19-20 as per my plan :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I covered ALGN a couple of hours ago, but still holding VAL. I don&#8217;t have much VAL, so I can wait. Would like to see it down to $19-20 as per my plan 🙂</p>
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		By: ducati998		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kat,

But they are both making you money today!

jog on
duc]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kat,</p>
<p>But they are both making you money today!</p>
<p>jog on<br />
duc</p>
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		By: Phantasmix		</title>
		<link>https://phantasmix.com/short-picks-val-algn/comment-page-1/#comment-2140</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Both VAL and ALGN have very high short interest. Baaaaad.]]></description>
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		By: Eric Davis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Val has a nice dip buy quality.... To simplify some momentem talk. a stock has a &quot;Momentum top&quot; followed by a &quot;dip buy&quot; followed by a &quot;secondary top&quot;  EWT calls it Wave 3, Wave 4 pull back, then wave 5 top

Val made one good moementum high, then pulled back to attract buyes, and is now moving to it&#039;s secondary top... After which you should get a correction.

Algn made it&#039;s top, pulled back and made a series of slightly higher highs Definate toppy action... But that stuff is all the MOMO thse days, and it still could get some action behind it.

The MOMO guys right now are trading Healthcare and staples. That is where they think it&#039;s safe. So, it is getting toppy, but don&#039;t doubt their ability to push things up again.

Wait till val hits 23.50 to short it. Both of them are definatly hitting resistance and could have decent pullbacks..

but you have a red candle out of algn, and a green candle in VAL...... But for a short term trade, Val will probably run out of short term momentum, then move through.

You and I have been talking about trend lines, If you run a line from the july lows to the september lows, and wait for them to &quot;Break&quot; That trend.... I said &quot;Break&quot; and not &quot;Test&quot;. That is how I would short it.... In fact I may put them on my list. Then look for them to do a respecive 50% pull backs.

When you do your risk reward, you end up with a solid 3 dollar move, instead of the $1.50 you are getting Playing with fire.

As they back and fill for the next few days, you can draw a second trend from the september low, to the Back and fill stages(but not &quot;TODAY&quot;, then wait for it to break that trend line, and you can catch another buck or so.

I give ALGN 50/50 bearish bullish. But it could just get some nervous short covering for the sake of our current market environment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val has a nice dip buy quality&#8230;. To simplify some momentem talk. a stock has a &#8220;Momentum top&#8221; followed by a &#8220;dip buy&#8221; followed by a &#8220;secondary top&#8221;  EWT calls it Wave 3, Wave 4 pull back, then wave 5 top</p>
<p>Val made one good moementum high, then pulled back to attract buyes, and is now moving to it&#8217;s secondary top&#8230; After which you should get a correction.</p>
<p>Algn made it&#8217;s top, pulled back and made a series of slightly higher highs Definate toppy action&#8230; But that stuff is all the MOMO thse days, and it still could get some action behind it.</p>
<p>The MOMO guys right now are trading Healthcare and staples. That is where they think it&#8217;s safe. So, it is getting toppy, but don&#8217;t doubt their ability to push things up again.</p>
<p>Wait till val hits 23.50 to short it. Both of them are definatly hitting resistance and could have decent pullbacks..</p>
<p>but you have a red candle out of algn, and a green candle in VAL&#8230;&#8230; But for a short term trade, Val will probably run out of short term momentum, then move through.</p>
<p>You and I have been talking about trend lines, If you run a line from the july lows to the september lows, and wait for them to &#8220;Break&#8221; That trend&#8230;. I said &#8220;Break&#8221; and not &#8220;Test&#8221;. That is how I would short it&#8230;. In fact I may put them on my list. Then look for them to do a respecive 50% pull backs.</p>
<p>When you do your risk reward, you end up with a solid 3 dollar move, instead of the $1.50 you are getting Playing with fire.</p>
<p>As they back and fill for the next few days, you can draw a second trend from the september low, to the Back and fill stages(but not &#8220;TODAY&#8221;, then wait for it to break that trend line, and you can catch another buck or so.</p>
<p>I give ALGN 50/50 bearish bullish. But it could just get some nervous short covering for the sake of our current market environment.</p>
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		By: ducati998		</title>
		<link>https://phantasmix.com/short-picks-val-algn/comment-page-1/#comment-2131</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kat,

You have drawn a channel that is rising. That&#039;s bullish point #1

Bullish point #2 is that the previous &quot;Resistance&quot; would currently be seen as acting as Support [notice all the long tails]

Bullish point #3 is that it has moved above the 200 and has a rising 50 that has also crossed the 200

All-in-all it also looks rather bullish, possibly not as explosive as the other chart, but, I&#039;d not want to be short on this one.

In your favour however, technicals are 50/50 so you have even money 

jog on
duc]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kat,</p>
<p>You have drawn a channel that is rising. That&#8217;s bullish point #1</p>
<p>Bullish point #2 is that the previous &#8220;Resistance&#8221; would currently be seen as acting as Support [notice all the long tails]</p>
<p>Bullish point #3 is that it has moved above the 200 and has a rising 50 that has also crossed the 200</p>
<p>All-in-all it also looks rather bullish, possibly not as explosive as the other chart, but, I&#8217;d not want to be short on this one.</p>
<p>In your favour however, technicals are 50/50 so you have even money </p>
<p>jog on<br />
duc</p>
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		By: Phantasmix		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought that triple top wasn&#039;t bullish :(

Well, then I may still have a safe out when it ends the third spike of the &quot;crown&quot; a bit to the downside.

What about VAL, why is it bullish?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that triple top wasn&#8217;t bullish 🙁</p>
<p>Well, then I may still have a safe out when it ends the third spike of the &#8220;crown&#8221; a bit to the downside.</p>
<p>What about VAL, why is it bullish?</p>
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		By: ducati998		</title>
		<link>https://phantasmix.com/short-picks-val-algn/comment-page-1/#comment-2129</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kat,

If the WSJ is correct and &quot;shorts&quot; wern&#039;t the sellers, then that represents, within the financials, some form of capitulation.

ALGN looks like a triple top....which is technically, very bullish. If it breaks out. then it could be an explosive move.

jog on
duc]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kat,</p>
<p>If the WSJ is correct and &#8220;shorts&#8221; wern&#8217;t the sellers, then that represents, within the financials, some form of capitulation.</p>
<p>ALGN looks like a triple top&#8230;.which is technically, very bullish. If it breaks out. then it could be an explosive move.</p>
<p>jog on<br />
duc</p>
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		By: Phantasmix		</title>
		<link>https://phantasmix.com/short-picks-val-algn/comment-page-1/#comment-2127</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah it looks like it&#039;s about to finish the third mini-top.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it looks like it&#8217;s about to finish the third mini-top.</p>
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		By: Eric Davis		</title>
		<link>https://phantasmix.com/short-picks-val-algn/comment-page-1/#comment-2125</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, you could make a case for ALGN... it is a nice sort of &quot;dome top&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, you could make a case for ALGN&#8230; it is a nice sort of &#8220;dome top&#8221;</p>
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		By: Phantasmix		</title>
		<link>https://phantasmix.com/short-picks-val-algn/comment-page-1/#comment-2124</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phantasmix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric,
Armageddon is postponed, but not cancelled :)

Did you read your WSJ today? There was that bit about how maximum amount of shorts for the financials was in July and some other month, but &lt;strong&gt;not in the past 2 weeks&lt;/strong&gt;, when they were waterfalling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
Armageddon is postponed, but not cancelled 🙂</p>
<p>Did you read your WSJ today? There was that bit about how maximum amount of shorts for the financials was in July and some other month, but <strong>not in the past 2 weeks</strong>, when they were waterfalling.</p>
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